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Going into this lottery I did the lottery simulator on 10 times. The Celtics got the first overall pick three times and were in the top three picks in five of them.

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So I was feeling pretty good going into Tuesday night. Then this happened:

What a joke. Third time in four years they’ve gotten the No. 1 pick since LeBron James left. Even Tim Donaghy thinks the lottery is rigged. Here were the draft odds going into Tuesday night:

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Yeah, so the Cavaliers had a 1.7 percent chance of getting that pick, so of course they got it. I mean, Primrose Everdeen had a better chance at being picked than they did. Too bad the Celtics can’€™t volunteer for tribute.

Here’€™s how the rest of the draft worked out:

1. Cleveland Cavaliers

2. Milwaukee Bucks

3. Philadelphia 76ers

4. Orlando Magic

5. Utah Jazz

6. Boston Celtics

7. Los Angeles Lakers

8. Sacramento Kings

9. Charlotte Hornets

10. Philadelphia 76ers

11. Denver Nuggets

12. Orlando Magic

13. Minnesota Timberwolves

14. Phoenix Suns

Obviously the NBA rigged this. Everyone knows that. The Cavaliers were the biggest long shot to win the lottery that no one saw since the NBA expanded in 1995. The odds of the Cavaliers winning the 2011, 2013 and 2014 lotteries: 13,467-to-1.

The NBA even gave Milwaukee and Philadelphia the second and third picks for their masterful tanking jobs. This season the Sixers lost 26 games in a row, traded two of their best players (Evan Turner, Spencer Hawes) for a pack of sour Starburst, purposely missed three dunks in one game against Milwaukee, and still were rewarded for it. I mean, the NBA couldn’t even make it more obvious that the fix was in. Not only did it give the Cavs the top pick, it even tried to cover up the fix by giving Milwaukee and Philadelphia the second and third picks. Because if three long shots got the top three picks that would just be TOO obvious.

The question is, why did the NBA pick Cleveland? I assume it’€™s because the league felt bad about last year. After all, last year’€™s draft was historically bad. Everyone sucked. There wasn’t a single player who was a sure thing, so the Cavs took freeloading Canadian Anthony Bennett. In hindsight, he makes Michael Olowokandi look like a great pick. On the other hand, maybe it was just a general feeling of pity for what is quite possibly the most depressing post-industrial city in America outside of Buffalo.


Here’€™s how the draft works (via Wikipedia):

To determine the winner, 14 ping pong balls numbered 1-14 are placed in a standard lottery machine and four balls are randomly selected from the lot. Just as in most traditional lotteries, the order in which the numbers are drawn is not important. That is, 1-2-3-4 is considered to be the same as 4-3-2-1. So although there is a total of 24 (4!) orders in which the balls numbered 1-2-3-4 can be picked, they are all treated as the same outcome. In doing this, the permutation of four balls from 14 becomes the combination of four balls from 14. That is, the total of 24,024 (14! / 10!, or 14x13x12x11) possible permutations is reduced by a factor of 24, to 1,001 combinations (or 14! / (10! x 4!)). Of these, one outcome is disregarded and 1,000 outcomes are distributed among the 14 non-playoff NBA teams. The combination 11-12-13-14 (in any order that those numbers are drawn) is not assigned and it is ignored if drawn; this has never occurred in practice.

Unless you are a statistics major, this might as well be in Chinese. So, why don’€™t they show us the actual lottery? I’ve done some research into this, and I just can’€™t find out how they cheat. They have representatives from each team in the back room who oversee the ping pong balls being picked. I have a hard time believing that the NBA is trying to pull a fast one on a bunch of savvy billionaires. But unless I can see it happening with my own eyes, I simply won’€™t believe it’€™s on the up and up.

My conspiracy theory is pretty simple. A LeBron-Cleveland rivalry would be awesome for the NBA. So would a LeBron return to Cleveland. Obviously LeBron is a front-running fraud, so going back to Cleveland is a definite possibility now. I’€™m watching the Indiana-Miami game right now and LeBron has played like crap ever since the announcement was made. And don’€™t fool yourself, Cavs fans, you would welcome him back with open arms like nothing ever happened.


Either way, the Celtics deserved better. They tanked, but they did it the right way. They lost all those games because they weren’t good enough. They stayed close with teams game after game only to lose in the closing minutes because Jeff Green isn’t a real NBA star. And in the final minutes of games you need a closer, and the Celtics don’€™t have one. Brad Stevens got this team, which had nothing to play for, to play with heart and determination. They deserved better than this.

The question now is, can the Celtics still get Kevin Love with the No. 6 pick? The answer is, of course they can. Minnesota isn’t going to get him back after next season. The Timberwolves kind of have no choice but to trade him. The Celtics have an arsenal of draft picks at their disposal and will have enough cap space to sign him. Love knows that and he wants to come here. It’€™s going to happen, and this changes absolutely nothing.

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I don’€™t know whether or not to be happy or upset that the Rangers are completely facializing les Canadiens de Montreal. On the one hand I have loved watching the Habs get annihilated at home by the sixth-seeded Rangers by a combined score of 10-3. On the other hand, it makes you wonder how the hell we lost to these idiots.

Apparently we should’ve just drilled Carey Price‘€™s leg like Chris Kreider did.

Of course Habs fans are crying foul on this one. Even though it was clear as day that Kreider first completely emasculated Alexei Emelin, found the open lane, completely dusted both defenders and got a shot off while being hooked by both of the fallen pawns.

Now of course these idiots are whining, because in their moronic brains they can’€™t imagine that their Habs could possibly be beaten like this.

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Does it get more Montreal than Josee Belanger? LOL Josee. Always trying to make it seem like they’€™re the NHL‘€™s battered women. A fatal accident? These clowns are just such a disgrace to this game. Everything that normal people like about the NHL, they hate. That’€™s the problem here. They hate the physical play, all the mean checking and the senseless pushing and shoving. And Kreider should get a five-game suspension for getting tripped by two defenders who just got smoked by Kreider without him having to break a sweat. Zero tolerance for those type of shenanignans. Clearly Kreider should’ve used his magical balancing powers in order to avoid contact with Price. Because when Emelin gives Kreider the reach-around, Kreider should’€™ve been able to pull out his inner Nancy Kerrigan and somehow avoid doing smacking Price on the knee.

But seriously, the silence of the Bell Centre was fantastic Monday night. I hope you got to hear it. Listening to those idiots say nothing as they collectively realized that this was the last time they’€™d see their Canadiens play in their arena this year was nothing less than euphoric. No way this team can win a game against the Rangers right now. But hey, at least you can still talk about 1993, 1986 and all those Cups you won when there were six teams in the league. Because we really give a crap about that.

The hard pill to swallow is that New York is making it look soooooo easy. Granted Henrik Lundvquist has been orgasmic in net, but all they’€™re doing is everything we didn’t. For starters, they shoot the puck. That helps. And they’€™re really, really killing them with speed. Do you remember Brad Marchand or Milan Lucic or David Krejci doing anything like Kreider did? I don’€™t. I do remember Emelin stealing the puck from them more times than I can count, though.

So obviously it’€™s clear what the Bruins need to go after in the postseason. Marchand’€™s got to go, unfortunately. Not fast enough, and not so cute when he’€™s getting penalties but no goals. Go get some little Russian with speed.

Oh, yeah, and the Blackhawks dismantle the Rangers in the Finals.

LOL. Habs fans.




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