Bradfo Sho, Ep. 42: Eck opens up

The Bradfo Sho
Tuesday, September 12th

Rob Bradford is joined by NESN analyst, and Hall of Fame pitcher, Dennis Eckersley. For the first time anywhere, Eckersley discusses the controversy involving David Price and the subsequent fallout. He goes on to explain how he views his job, his relationship with the players and how he views his entire 2017 season while filling in for Jerry Remy.


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Brad rose show. That might open definitely probably would've brought that might over. Away where you don't know what you're stupid. Brad broad show. That's delicious. I'm so long. I've been honored a lot of this podcast. By IA are you beyond honored to have Dennis actually on. With me on Brad vote show back welcome it's do we ever Neitzel studio here in its I feel like you get the lava lamps in the bean bag chairs that. It's just back is just like studio 54. A hook. Our problem that I would take it for now that so back healthy year bin. It's been it's just think you know because I've been doing this a long time not necessarily in the Booth but you know what that and yes the years or so and add up to there's been nothing like this year just really he go back over and why you know why this I'm like that happen. Thank you know who have enough distance from it now. To sort of say that you know things happen in this game you know to sort out to be me. I think it's very unfortunate for everybody you know it's. That's connected where that you know that stocks priced me whatever so I'm glad it's behind us now. This is the ultimate jumping right into an added note this is why you the best of you know fool around bio I'd stick to clarify to save your chance to set the scene is that. You know when asked about the year obviously I hate to say over the years been defined by a and you know days and unemployment David Price. And you've mentioned it Tom as long as we're talking about an act you mention it. About getting a little way from. So that happened at the end of June. Right and so. Now we're sitting here two and a half months now and there's been different sort of parts of it in you had. You would the price acknowledging it I guess in there and here at Fenway Park clubhouse where. And then you had I think with the next day you are the legends suite and you get predicts that ovation. So talk to me a little bit about how what you said the evolution of since it happened what is that like you. Well I think it was difficult at first was out on that road trip that was the first game of that road trip so that was difficult those ten days on that road. You know trying to not you know have it. Yeah have anything to do is you broadcast you know I mean you're only human you know and especially you know when he had to pitch. I think it is pleasant Texas yeah a couple ties you to in Tampa to. Yes so in and that that didn't take anything away I mean I just do in the game to name calling like I did and sometimes people don't like. The way you call it and see it could. I can't I don't know that. OK so listen let's go back before it even before the price. There was. Did you get a sense that any player that players had a hard time with the way that you broadcast a game I wanna get into how he broadcasts the game a little bit later. But it did you get that sense kids are gonna be honesty I just thought oh he's really get added he's honest but I do you think you were overly critical. But then you talk to people and you this is the way it works in baseball one guy tells another guy tells another guy did you get a sense even before. A thing happen. Not necessarily but to be honest I think there's like a sort of undercurrent because you know when you're sitting in the studio. And you wherever you say you don't know what to backlash is of it you know and once again like you talk about people that do see it. And then tell the players what was said sometimes it's not exactly what he said in and I know that how that happens. But I didn't. You know I think I had heard a few little things but when you're not the main guy you're not gonna hear it all that often invent players are normally careful. You know amongst themselves though they stuff you know because there not that they're sensitive you well. But nobody likes to be I mean. Everybody wants to be. Talked about positive and everything positive you know and and it's not that way too you know I've got to do my job. And I can't just be here of this flowery. Type commentary he just can't. You know I had and I don't make an attempt to either way to do whatever. In and that's that's why I feel like I'm honest with you when I say that well when viewed. Go back to when you were player did you. There is TV when you played there of broadcasters when you played. Did do you get the sense that it was the same dynamic or did you guys pay attention as much hurt guys pay attention more obviously there's more ways to pay attention. But what was that like did you ever have a problem when many broadcasters it to you know. Of anyone who did. I guess but nothing that stands out. And I think it's changed I just do because. There's more profit the pregame news all it is all consuming I think. And then there's more talk of what was being said and talk radio. Talk radio's killer he says in this town I didn't have to go to me out here long time ago talk radio they had never they'd put the class athlete. That was it all started right and he was turned into I mean there are some vicious don't get thrown around it there has since I can eat. How the players are sensitive towards it because you know. I mean they're trying their best to know about the at the same time I played and I gave up. I gave up a lot of home runs you know I mean I had a lot of bad outing so you know you just got to understand. They've got to wait if they forget the players do and I think. All of us do they forget it when you say nice things about him. Which is a lot of big data that's given right you're supposed to be nice and all that I mean they forget that. That I think they become more sensitive when they are playing very well and at that human when you're the thing. Jackie Bradley if it were like I like Jackie in where he tweed is something Allen and you might talk to no matter how big base between it out. So the fact though for you know thanks for the motivation and but yeah but it is a so this but that that was an isolated into this as this was. This this sort of thing happens and you just happen to be on the plane that day as well. You have it was a setup there was like awful has to be afforded the Jet Li Jackie Q1 was elated but don't know this and we'll get to that door two years ago is that what you want me to AA yeah about that but that was the first time that I had released a noble someone has promise act. Yeah he was sensitive I mean he's hit a buck and half the so there's a lot of people not thinking he could hit right and that went on and on one that's nothing new. But I but he picked me out of it after a game in in Detroit where he could went four for five with five RBIs and then next thing you know he set me up for pitcher. On the tarmac which was really off. And then posted on Twitter and if and when it first came off I was on the plane wouldn't matter ten minutes that it came on and I went what in the world is going on. And I talked to the PR guy Greg Pennsylvania Avenue and he was like he was baffled too because he was the one to went to get me. And so it it I miss some and I went back to talk to him and he sort of didn't get it. And so I mean I'd just let it slide. Because I know you know I've done some things you know and so I never had anything about it. Yeah two years ago. Right Soviet that was obviously great news here in OK this chalk this up too he was a young guy right the idea yeah. I can ice I mean I I I go that right so. So anyway that happens. But like you said that was sort of the first time like I'll really you know the they have if somebody might have an issue where that. The doesn't seem right because like you said you say a lot of positive things you and you call like you see it that Howard's post read I know you keep a job I have no way. You know this is what it comes after it sounds harsh I mean numbness or hearts that. He's not trying to do my job I can't worry about the thirty guys in that clubhouse. In my might you know the people want to talk to are the audience. You know if you get sensitive to. What somebody's thinking down the clubhouse that takes away from everything it should really does and you can't just shoot from the hip and I don't mean shooting from the hip like a wild and crazy up there you know. So. Flash forward to this this the incident in June bomb. Do you have any sense at all any sense at all the idea was that price had had an instant win the with us from the writers a few weeks before. But did you have any inclination law. Done none none at all then yeah then you go back to what happened. Before that incident I mean like literally that night. Right Eduardo Eduardo Rodriguez is that I rehab. Rehab outing and you do typically. I think you do I don't know that was in this in this setting but. You do sort of recap of the game and you have to comment right came popped up on the screen nook because we're worried about you know who once he come back I was his first appearance and that throughout the numbers. And I have a quick oh yuck it just has just that this reactionary really sound like I'm trying to stick it to you about it at all I mean that's this you know. But I don't you'd have to ask you know. The guys they get upset about what set him off because. You know I only go by what he said later and then he wanted to talk to me about a month later. So I mean I I get confused here I don't wanna sit around talk about what I said or I think he was mad about. It be like you know tossed up against the wall I really don't know but obviously he doesn't. Like my act. Below wall so when that happens when it happens on the plane and united in we get it but stuff happens on the plane and this is a lot of times we don't hear about stuff happened on the plane. But this was had you ever heard of anything like this happening. I guess on a plane or in this setting which is basically I guess for lack of better term. Addressing the situation I'm being very nice hairdressing situation by putting. Someone on stage that you ever heard anything like that putt they went beyond you know we have to. The media fly list. So we had a lot episodes of media Arum out you know did you talk about drinking and thank you analogies I mean it did a lot of stuff that took place so I get that. You know. And it's almost like I guess that your thinking is that this is our club house which is the plane it continues in the clubhouse to the plane so what happens in the clubhouse stays in the clubhouse I think that's they're sort of thing I would assume they did anyway over the years that's happened a lot. But not like this I don't know I've never be seen whether it was an announcer and maybe camp and you know nothing that stands out. It would be fair to army would be unfair or fair to say my analogy putting on stage yeah who yeah was. And so when that after it happens. Tom what do you feel on what are you feeling right after it happens I ask you humiliated to be honest we've. And you guys as far as talking about this I've never said anything. And I'm you're the first person I've really talked to him we appreciate that. Yeah and it's 'cause I don't wanna make or anything more than I did spell might be thinking you know accused talked about. We're two and half months out and and this is a lot of this stuff we know about this is just. This is about. A big part of it is about about doing your job. Mean this is in the fact is that for two and a half months you continue to do your job in that. And so so to go back to that. So you felt embarrassed. Tom what did what did you think we can so you have a plane ride you plane ride to Toronto. Emotional. It was I've never been that position before in my life who was really just an awful feeling you know I didn't really quite know what to do. You know it's it's I don't know you know out of say it I'm just glad that there's distance here and and as far as you know who care so I feel meat so you know it's these I have to deal with it. And I don't want to stand in the way of anything I want to go you go away I really do because. In what's also matters is winning the test tube that's what it's so that's that comes back to the he'll win I don't know when it was a month later months later word David Price addresses it said you know maybe it pocket. Intermediate that didn't that was that was that didn't do anything to sort of heal the process and to please send me this is. This is this was part of the conversation with team for a long long time and Tom and should've been there should have been absolutely. But so when he talks when you hear he's gonna talk Pedroia at heart the day before. And that's where you know and when Pedroia is talking about it because don't you address an inning of baseball usually. So when you heard Pedroia talked to like okay. This is this is seeping. Yes they knew he'd want to part of that stuff and I understand that to unity do you bring in the whole team to that and do you know that they don't they don't want me that I mean nobody wanted that. You know and I don't want this you know so I understand where he's coming from me want to get his distance from at all. You know because then you get into an Indian Canadian pick and everything what who said what or whatever and just I don't know it's just he gets kind of silly book. OK so let me ask you this in this ghost along with what price it set about coming down the clubhouse. Tom as a broadcaster Mickey talked about it in the way of it up rocked this is how whether it's done this way or not. I see broadcasters come down sometimes. A lot of times he stand by the door and do nothing. Come so when he said that I was surprised because I didn't really think they tell well a broadcaster did I've seen you include the right are you in the clubhouse in Texas. The series after that happened the least of two of those games did that surprise. About the clubhouse right yeah quote. Does surprise me because I think they they think you're you're supposed to be available and I can understand that you have a problem was me. Because ultimately if you do have a problem Soviet you say Jagger we talk you know that's how easily handle it right. But it he's thinking I'm never around and he doesn't have to do you know you weren't meant. But he too but yes I'm just the same way some PR guy says go get him I want tucked him eight did you could make it happen. But the ultimately. This comes dead back to you know the dude doesn't like me. You know and I get it so it's cool. Let's move on would you ever wanna talk don't know. Why would I want talking you know the guys who probably be a cure. They definitely raised at the first guy doesn't like me I get it how difficult he talked about going to in the broadcast right after. When did it get to the point where you felt OK I can kind of settled back into what I do what's there right away or wasn't a few games. I don't know I think I got in after the all star break I was fine everything's cool and give me off that road trip you know so I could get get my feet on the ground again now. Well also you we talked about the the applause he got when you're up in the legends suite I mean this is. If you're you're beloved here anyway. But has has this whole thing. What transpired in the sport you've gotten me as that. You know let a level that you are expecting yeah I mean it's like hey man I don't yeah I that's wonderful and you know what. Attention that you've gotten from it but I didn't want this. I don't want this this is not who I am at all. You now but it's cool I mean I appreciated. I really I've kind of uncomfortable with a let's just aren't just you know move on hand. So how do you sell this to jump into how you do broadcast. Com yeah I would imagine like a lot of broadcasters evil vault and when you first started out where you hasn't suited to talk about the players or were you right away. If this is how it's done and you really haven't changed cents well you know some I think originally I'm never sitting as a player. Listeners who decisively in and then you know club off so long. Does he for the seventh inning got so I'd like to record three quarters of the game before I went to the bull pens I see here guys that's a while Montgomery. But I'm not in Oakland on oak I have yet so I remember thinking to myself if I ever do this that which is just a thought. I mean I want it I want to make sure that you know I know they schemes not that easy so you don't want take you get up there and start you know popping off saying that this you know. Middle middle fastball and hang a breaking balls and they guy headed out how whatever you know. But that there after a while when you ball. He just go he's got he's able to say hey you can't if there's a white careful here careful there you wanna hurt somebody you know. A lot of these players think they want their mom and dad to be appear on the game you know what. In case you know and I always said this about when you did broadcast salary said. What that one of the things I like is your reactions do you react like a guy in his living room would react like a law. Right to access our back you know it's a bat you know good or bad low lower and you know. I mean I would imagine that that's people other people said that. And and you now listen you've done a lot of it is is the most games you've ever done right now yeah I did summoned. Thirteen and tenth 2009 that's when I was like it's on thirteen you know how you know obvious script in the bottom of the barrel that. The 2000 and the house of puppy back then. The job evolved into this event. You know I don't know I'd be I enjoyed doing it but I I don't like this side of it. You know people you know critiquing that my critique or whatever it's that bad I guess that's part of it is you gotta. You know take what comes with a well it's you know it's players and its community to guys who filled in when you weren't doing it. You'll social media few rough place. And so it's it this is of this as what Debra what's different from when you're playing this is what's different in. Like you said I don't think the players are nearly as a micromanaging these broadcasts as much as they are now I don't think certainly the the media and the public are. Via under scrutiny that comes with this job big time especially Boston come on you know you everything you say hey. You know let alone what the players think you know it's what the Twitter world thinks or whatever. And that's insanity to save on the site. But so it is so overall like now that we're through. That stuff. Has it you know do you you've done a ton of games he's in and people say hey where's Jack where's Jack where's that they want you to do more. Could you ever see yourself doing more or is this it was this about right was this about the system many it was I know it's an exhausting year by uniform lotteries. A lot of people think that you know we were sacked because you know like they don't want him or I I don't I never. Knew what I was gonna put us getting into here I've always wanted to inability gotten I mean I'm not you know 45 years or wherever it is and want to do the whole enchilada. I mean this is tough this is this is a young man's business as you know yet still I'm not a young man and I'm in the wrong business as hard. It is hard so. You know I've worked hard and be able to get to a situation where I could not call my own shots but I'd like to do a lot more home games. You know I'd like to do home games you know and I don't know maybe after doing what I've done maybe I'm willing to do more games but I'm lucky to get this job to begin with so it's easiest target going shot. Well it isn't good. You do would you wanna do anything else I mean you very good spot I don't. You like 35 years old at least in your chair lift Catholics are you looked that way but it the year and it could spark you. Your golf and in your nearby Sohn who is there anything else you would wanna do ever first or did you ever come close to doing like anything in the front office. Violence that now and I've ever been you know head coaching them and never had a passion to want to do it because that's who knew deep to. To be a coach so this is perfect for me you know because I'm emotional. I get to you know ride this wave. You know up and down all around and it was unfortunate what happened this year but I don't want to stand in the way of what I really wanted to do going forward you know I mean I never wants them like that to stand. In the way and so maybe I'll do more next year. Our act you've been you've been enlightening and you've been vision of a vision of hope but hey thanks this is is this your first broadcast. Yeah the end and that's why you know for me to talk about this. Not really to Derek felt free enough to talk about it but I think we have enough distance to always and I don't want this to get in the way. Of the ultimate thing that's happening on this field. Great game of the great game of baseball because these thoughts I. All right thanks again.