On today's 4@4 The Dale & Holley Crew talks about the greatest Athletes to never quite reach the top of the sports mountain. They name some home town heroes and some national stars.

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[0:05:01] ... for the niners. And I can remember the Sports Illustrated cover of Dan Marino and Joseph Montana and we thought pale the feedback as Super Bowl ten more times and his career. Never got back retired with yet. Higher record book air crazy crazy heart Dodi Blaine is is it Dan Marino I've done something. Different nobody could he have affected thing is that this is his fault no I don't think so what ...
[0:09:46] ... they just needed to win one of them. To go to the World Series didn't. And then the team just dropped right off but he spent the whole decade of the fifties in front. Empty houses ...
[0:10:37] ... they truly independent if you win it. Then you're going to the World Series that fit your post feeds and is the World Series. No Ailes yes. No NLCS you win that you win only. And you go play in a World Series that's very difficult. If if you're Red Sox fan you've got a whole list of guys who could have been candidates Carl ...






Dale, Michael and Jerry discuss all aspects of the Celtics and the NBA Draft. Do they trade or do they draft?

[0:09:44] ... at the bank library of the past. We're back guards the next Ray Allen. We're sick you don't want a guard units. Hopped out got our little girl looking late if you knew that buddy Gil was going to be the next step curry. You would need it because I got weddings like that but all right if you knew we was gonna be the next Ray Allen but how do you know. You're taking a chance here. Let's get the project that's projection game became scared and album Michael with the next Ray Allen have gotten past Atlanta. Yeah I think they aren't they couldn't score in the paint they had no alternative to what again when Hillary in effect because in every on no rice but. I Okafor can already do that. Jerry that's a question within X Ray Allen. Have gotten past the man absolutely. Welcome no I think it would I think it would all loaded on the next Ray Allen. And the paint would have been they got there that leaves Isaiah Thomas for the white dominicans quarter Brady he's able to ...
[0:11:38] ... it to be just like this to build the team to have Isiah Thomas as our as our starting point guard. We didn't build it to have Jared sellinger here you may be able to take ...
[0:20:29] ... know we went over the without Jefferson Avery Bradley. Tony out land Delonte West and make good MBA players. But he's never being year. In this position where everybody wants. What's you've got as opposed to ...





Dale, Michael and Jerry discuss all aspects of the Celtics and the NBA Draft. Do they trade or do they draft?

[0:09:44] ... at the bank library of the past. We're back guards the next Ray Allen. We're sick you don't want a guard units. Hopped out got our little girl looking late if you knew that buddy Gil was going to be the next step curry. You would need it because I got weddings like that but all right if you knew we was gonna be the next Ray Allen but how do you know. You're taking a chance here. Let's get the project that's projection game became scared and album Michael with the next Ray Allen have gotten past Atlanta. Yeah I think they aren't they couldn't score in the paint they had no alternative to what again when Hillary in effect because in every on no rice but. I Okafor can already do that. Jerry that's a question within X Ray Allen. Have gotten past the man absolutely. Welcome no I think it would I think it would all loaded on the next Ray Allen. And the paint would have been they got there that leaves Isaiah Thomas for the white dominicans quarter Brady he's able to ...
[0:11:38] ... it to be just like this to build the team to have Isiah Thomas as our as our starting point guard. We didn't build it to have Jared sellinger here you may be able to take ...
[0:20:29] ... know we went over the without Jefferson Avery Bradley. Tony out land Delonte West and make good MBA players. But he's never being year. In this position where everybody wants. What's you've got as opposed to ...





We discuss the retirement of David Ortiz on the heels of Jeff Passan's piece today on it. We discuss all aspects of Ortiz, the salary, the performance, the health, the PEDs and more.

[0:00:10] ... of my pro sports lifetime here in this town. Another what does David Ortiz will talk about him as the hour goes on as well David Ortiz who innate Jeff passed in peace on Yahoo! today. Not talked about how difficult it is for him to get out there ...
[0:01:20] ... but it if at the end of the year forty year old David Ortiz. As got 3540 home runs had not been. 110. That would be far away the best on your team why wouldn't. Younger ...
[0:01:51] ... be concerned that you know it's kids' day boards Bobble head David David Ortiz not a lot of guaranteed 81 games in the lineup at Fenway Park. And you have select road games you know maybe ...
[0:04:44] ... year next year. And it's a bit of a tragedy futuristic equated David Ortiz his career with Phoebe Cates nude scenes are just trying to think of excellence. You know greatness and his greatness out of ...






We discuss the retirement of David Ortiz on the heels of Jeff Passan's piece today on it. We discuss all aspects of Ortiz, the salary, the performance, the health, the PEDs and more.

[0:00:10] ... of my pro sports lifetime here in this town. Another what does David Ortiz will talk about him as the hour goes on as well David Ortiz who innate Jeff passed in peace on Yahoo! today. Not talked about how difficult it is for him to get out there ...
[0:01:20] ... but it if at the end of the year forty year old David Ortiz. As got 3540 home runs had not been. 110. That would be far away the best on your team why wouldn't. Younger ...
[0:01:51] ... be concerned that you know it's kids' day boards Bobble head David David Ortiz not a lot of guaranteed 81 games in the lineup at Fenway Park. And you have select road games you know maybe ...
[0:04:44] ... year next year. And it's a bit of a tragedy futuristic equated David Ortiz his career with Phoebe Cates nude scenes are just trying to think of excellence. You know greatness and his greatness out of ...






We remember five of Kevin Garnett's best moments in Boston in honor of his 40th Birthday.

[0:00:39] ... seven years old today. Born on Andre the giant's thirtieth birthday. With Kevin Garnett forty years young today he's the subject for today's for a full. Make buttons. I overdue in the best of KG Kevin grant. All the other KG I'm sorry I spent the last three hours hollering for the best of Kevin Graham and now you tell me now let's be honest it wouldn't take you there are three hours on asbestos and like. I did have a alternate song choice for the beginning I mean which to me that was good. To always Carriker won now regret. Kevin Garnett so good in this segment he makes his own themes what you're always like that that dog food that you put a ...
[0:01:40] ... Well a lot of this one's for you. As the best of Kevin Garnett and when the Celtics finally won. Banner number seventeen. After the game Kevin Garnett had one of the great. Boston sports speeches. Of all time. Everybody has come. It's. Who. ...
[0:03:19] ... that the smoker. If you ought to love me. May first 2012. Kevin Garnett the Celtics beat the hawks in the playoffs. And after the game Kevin Garnett described how the Celtics managed to beat the hawks in the playoffs. Like she's committed human goodness to you know come and ...
[0:04:59] ... at the Red Sox games traditions over at Gillette Stadium. But when Kevin Garnett came to Boston he found out about it tradition and he immediately. Fell in love with the tradition and the guy who ...






We close out the show with best soundbites of the day.

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Dale, Holley, and Thornton talk about whether the NBA Draft is fixed or not and cite examples of times we questioned the NBA.
Dale, Holley, and Thornton talk about David Ortiz's clutch hits and try to define what makes a clutch hitter.
Farrell talks about E-Rod being delayed from returning due to a set back with his knee and all the attention Clay Buchholz gets from the media.